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Location: New York Metro
Experience: Mid-level
Highest Level of Education: Undergraduate Degree



Job Responsibilities
A simple way to describe the responsibilities of a commercial banking RM is that you are a middleman for clients/prospects and the bank, as well as the bank and the regulators. You have three primary responsibilities: Keep all existing clients satisfied, meet your goals and ensure compliance with regulations. Everything else you do is a derivative of these. You cannot lose clients in commercial banking! Client retention is critical because the cost to acquire new clients is so high - - it takes years to develop the relationships and finally convince a prospect to move. Keeping all clients satisfied can be challenging at times, as customers will call you first if there are problems on even the most elementary issues (checking issues, mistakes and other customer-service type issues). You would be amazed at how upset people get over seemingly minor things. Additionally, you will be the bearer of good and bad news, so you will need to be able to communicate effective. People skills and the ability to delegate are also critical. Much of your time is spent getting to know your client and the bank (to solve the problems). Client meetings and entertainment can go a long way to build the relationships. It can be difficult to leave a friend, so your goal is to be as close as possible to the client. Good rapport will make minor problems minor, difficult discussions a little easier and generally allow you the benefit of doubt. Bad rapport will be the best reason for your client to look elsewhere. Time spent is approximately 30-40%. Meeting your goals is what makes the world go round in banking. The ability to cross sell existing products (they have a loan with you, so you sell them treasury products, etc.) and bring in new clients separates the all-stars from the average Joes/Janes. Generally speaking, the rain makers are the most respected bankers. You will always have a place in banking if you can bring in new clients or successfully increase existing profitability. Goal discussions, relationship plans, prospecting and product overview meetings comprise the majority of your time in regards to this function. Time spent is approximately 20-40%. Regulatory compliance is the blandest part of the job. All banks have a commercial policy, which is derived from the regulators. You must ensure that you follow this completely. Underwritings, risk ratings, et al follow some procedure. This can be fun at times (for new deals), but is usually mundane and repetitious. All clients have a full annual review (similar to a new deal) and most have a quarterly review. For new deals, especially non-public mid market companies, you do have a chance to create the wheel. This will require the ability to ask probing questions of the client/prospect, great insights into the business, and the ability to articulate the risks and weaknesses of the particular transaction. For public companies and existing clients, however, this can be a cut and paste exercise for the company description, management, history, etc, followed by updating the financial performance. The latter can be very time consuming and boring, especially if no new events occur. After you have experience in the position, much of these requirements will seem like busy work and have no bearing on the actual outcome of the client??s satisfaction or the bank??s profitability. Time spent is approximately 30-40%.
Job Requirements
Commercial banks hire from both undergrad and MBA programs; however, an MBA is not necessary to succeed or to get hired. Entry level positions will focus on typical items - - school, grades and extra curricular activities. (Note that if you are not a business major, you generally need at least 4 accounting courses because most analyst work revolves around financial statements.) Experienced positions will have more weight placed on years in the industry, success with cross-selling and ability to prospect than they will on having a MBA. Furthermore, commercial banking is nearly always regionally focused, so you will get to know the players in the region and if you are good, they will get to know you. Once inside a commercial bank, you generally get promoted based upon your abilities, by aligning yourself with the correct team/person or by moving to another institution. Titles matter in commercial banking and the ladder is usually structured as follows: Trainee => Entry level position usually for undergrads. Most companies have some sort of training focused on credit and company culture. Following training, you will either rotate through different groups or go directly into a group (dependant upon the bank). Job focus will be on providing analysis for underwriting packages, ensuring for company compliance with loan covenants, performing risk ratings?? basically anything the account officer wants you to do. This stage generally has very little client contact. Bank Officer => Successful trainees are promoted to Bank Officer usually within 1-3 years of service. The promotion is usually based upon the person??s potential and ability to make an impact. By this point, some client contact has started and you are usually a secondary person on the account. You should be managing the underwriting process internally, while the account officer will be ultimately responsible for the activity. At this point your focus is on learning how to manage relationships, build rapport with customers/prospects, structure deals and learn all bank products. In order to move up to account officer you will need to have all of these skills down pat! Assistant Vice President => Successful Officers are promoted to AVP usually within 2-4 years following promotion to Officer. MBAs will generally start with this title as well. AVPs are either junior account officers or full blown account officers, dependant upon ability. Vice President => This is where the ladder gets grey. Superstars can become VPs within two years of being promoted to AVP, while others (and even some superstars) can wait years for the promotion. The majority of commercial bankers are at this level and most will remain at this level for the duration of their career in some form (VP 1, VP 2, etc.). VPs are full blown account officers. The reason I stated that titles matter is that since most bankers are VPs, larger clients generally want a VP managing the account. Prospects will also want this and not having a VP could put you at a competitive disadvantage. (Though on both accounts, being the better banker matters most and if you are good, you can overcome these factors.) Senior Vice President => Senior RMs / Team Leaders / Group Heads generally carry this title. SVPs are in their mid- to-late 30's at a minimum. Most are in their 40's. Responsibilities depend on the positions mentioned above. You are generally considered a 'junior executive'. Successful SVPs will move on to become an EVP, while most SVPs usually retire at this level. Executive Vice President => Group Heads / Division Heads et al. Carry this title.
Uppers
The quality of life is the best upper. See below.
Downers
Pay, cyclicality, autocratic nature and regulatory oversight are the biggest downers. Pay - - Bonuses are usually not clear and the majority of compensation is in the form of salary. Though bases can be substantial, total compensation is generally no where near other financial industries (Investment Banking, Investment Management, etc.). Therefore, if you are ambitious and want to be paid on performance, you will be frustrated at times, especially if you live in larger cities and have friends in the other industries. Cyclicality - - Credit cycles drive demand and it is not fun to be at a commercial bank in a down cycle. Pay is usually less, layoffs are usually more and lending is usually cut off to a trickle at best. Very boring times for someone who wants to learn more. Politics - - Unfortunately, performance does not always matter in banking. Many times your friends matter most. Commercial banking can be clicky and after a year or so, you can generally notice the teams. It is not uncommon for whole teams to take over groups. And even if it is just an individual change at the top, usually (s)he gets their people involved quickly. If you are on the winning team, you can do well. If you are not, well, you will either be put in a position you may not like (if you are good) or laid off (if you are average or less). Regulation - - This can at times be the biggest downer. Banks are highly regulated and much of your time is spent doing seemingly unproductive things simply to comply with the regulators. If the deal flow is high, this can be overwhelming at times.
Lifestyle
Seek employment in this industry if: you want to have a finance career that does require an MBA to advance. you want good experience prior to entering BSchool. enjoy managing relationships, entertaining and people you live in a region (and want to stay in the region) that does not have a strong. investment banking presence. you want a relatively stable/consistent finance career. Do not seek employment if: you want to advance rapidly. You want your pay to be based largely on your performance. I think that the general outlook for commercial banking is positive. Though it is not as glamorous as others in the financial sector, it is a good career path for those that can tolerate the downers. The pay is good and the quality of life is excellent. While many banks continue to downsize, there will always be a need for commercial lenders, especially on the mid- market and large corporate transactions. This combined with the fact that there are not many young bankers in the industry (= down the road you should have more leverage and be more desirable to other institutions), should be positive indicators for the occupation.
Compensation
Compensation is usually middle-of-the-road. The pay is just enough to make grad school a difficult choice for the younger bankers. Base can range from $50-90K for AVPs and from $90-125K for VPs, dependant upon ability and responsibilities. Bonuses can be very grey and are usually driven by how well the commercial bank does; generally 0-10% in down years, 10-20% in average years and 20-30% in excellent years. The latter is not common. Stock options are offered the higher you are on the ladder or to the better employees during down years (instead of a bonus). Benefits vary greatly among banks, but larger banks offer decent dental health, a 50-100% 401K match up to 4 or 6% of pay, stock purchase plans, etc.
Advice to Jobseekers
Seek employment in this industry if: ?? you want to have a finance career that does require an MBA to advance. ?? you want good experience prior to entering BSchool. ?? enjoy managing relationships, entertaining and people contact. ?? you live in a region (and want to stay in the region) that does not have a strong. investment banking presence. ?? you want a relatively stable/consistent finance career. Do not seek employment if: ?? you want to advance rapidly. ?? You want your pay to be based largely on your performance. I think that the general outlook for commercial banking is positive. Though it is not as glamorous as others in the financial sector, it is a good career path for those that can tolerate the downers. The pay is good and the quality of life is excellent. While many banks continue to downsize, there will always be a need for commercial lenders, especially on the mid- market and large corporate transactions. This combined with the fact that there are not many young bankers in the industry (= down the road you should have more leverage and be more desirable to other institutions), should be positive indicators for the occupation.

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