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Topic Name: New Grad venturing into Real World
Message Name: so true
Date Posted: 05/13/2001
In Reply To: 1. Be friendly to everyone. 2. Don't get caught up in political BS'ing about how bad others are behind their back. You won't know who has power and who's really an ally with others until your there a while. 3. Find allies that are successful and form loyal friendships with them. If they are stepping on others to get ahead, they won't be a good mentor or friend for you, unless your looking to join a club of vipers. 4. Work hard, but don't take work to seriously and decide to give up your entire life for it, because in the end chances are you'll end up screwed by some jerk of a manager and your life shouldn't be defined by your workplace only. 5. Leave you bad habits at home if possible. 6. Decide on the corporate lifestyle there and dress appropriately. Don't overdress to long as a crutch to offset your lack of knowledge with the job, but dressing up rarely hurt anyone. 7. Decide how many core values of honesty and morality that you have that are not negotiable for MONEY up front. Decide this ahead of time, because there is a GREAT cultural pressure eventually in many workplaces that will reward: lying, cheating and other forms of deception and theft. These things are not productive overall, but some industries almost thrive on these traits and some people climb ladders by these. If your up front from the start with these values, you'll know what to do ahead of time. 8. Don't be overly honest. In other words, hold your tongue and don't speak out the truth always or even most of the time. You can still be honest and say NOTHING and keep a strong value system (if you choose to live this way) with silence. If there is a lot of lying and "corporate" politics where you are, you can still survive and may not get ahead by "rolling with the punches". This means you aren't necessarily confronting evey lie that you see, but you aren't helping it either. 9., Know when to move on. Once you have enough experience, really look at the career and earnings path there. Decide where you could next go where there's a better more fullfilling job, that pays more, rewards hard work (or your skills) and has room for growth. Don't get stuck in a job to long, but don't jump for empty promises and leave a decent job either. That's some quick times I can think of for now.
Message: The last poster really knows how the game is played! But things are rarely this clean. I work in investment banking and the air is filled with poison here. People are unbelievably political, difficult and arrogant and I have decided just to withdraw and keep to myself to avoid all this. Now I am getting complaints that I am reluctant to socialize. What would you recommend? And also, are there industries/jobs where politics are not so important? Thanks, Wish I was still in school.

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