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BRAIDS: do you wear them to work? |
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naming state capital |
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08/04/2000 |
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Give me a break...Women are making history every day...Christine Whitman isn't the only female governor you know. Janet Reno is better known than 80% of all senators. Hillary Clinton isn't making great strides for woman's history? Queen Elizabeth II isn't history in the making? How about Queen Isabella? Mother Theresa? Cleopatra? Are you worried about just U.S. History? Our country is just over 220+ years old and I can assure you that you can't even name the first 16 presidents of our country without having to look them up...Can you name 20 Presidents without looking them up? Do you know all of the capitals to each state in the U.S. still? We learned all of this stuff in grade school and half of us can't even remember it. Do you remember everything about World History?
The rest of your post also lacked any sense of intelligent prose. You can't change the past...period, but you can change the future...especially your own...but if you want to hide behind certain walls that supposedly obstruct you from bettering yourself and succeeding at what you want...hey no sweat off my back. Use all the the excuses you want to explain your situation...but bear in mind...if other minorities can succeed, why can't you? |
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naming state capitals and U.S. presidents means you know elementary trivia, not necessarily history. go on jeopardy. you'll do great in the "US presidents for successful assholes" section.
all kidding aside, what I am writing about is a change in the way we approach history and the way we define what's important, rather than in the way we teach children to memorize history.
"if other minorities can success, why can't you?" kindly refrain from making assumptions about me, especially when I have indicated neither my race nor success level. it's exactly people like you who perpetuate the ignorance that activists fight. maybe you've never had to fight for anything, or maybe it's been easy for you, but you can't expect everyone to have the resources you've had. it's naive to think that just because you can do it, everybody else can too.
minorities generally achieve success in the face of great obstacles, the most obvious of which is race discrimination, so please don't make light of it. of course minorities do succeed, but take a look at our prison system, our urban schools, our urban and rural poor: how can you have such a coarse, insensitive attitude that you ask, "if other minorities can succeed, why can't you?"
would you also point to women who work as prostitutes or strippers and argue that it's all their fault? do you think that getting rid of welfare actually was a good thing? (yeah, the statistics show that everything is hunky dory, but when the economy slows down we'll all see how much people do need welfare.)
lastly, just because you can point out seven (wow, seven!) prominent women from a span of two millenia doesn't mean women are in history as they should be. don't even try to suggest that we need to learn more about the people historians have always focused on, instead of the people (e.g. the female, the poor, those who had the wrong skin color or spoke the wrong language, etc.) who have traditionally been excluded from our history and heritage.
if you'd like to educate yourself a little more, I'd be glad to provide a bibliography for you. let me know.
oh yeah -- get some kind of name instead of hiding behind anonymity. I'm michelle. it's great to meet you.
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