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KOIN Votes To Unionize! |
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You're changing your tune? |
| Date Posted: |
06/12/2005 |
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I didn't say "unions are bad" I said this was the WRONG TIME for a union vote. Look at KOIN's situation.
A Union vote will note help anyone now.
as for better owners and managers, If you are any good at your job, YOU pick who you work for. Its their station. If you don't like them, work somewhere else.
I left a great market once because my boss was an idiot. that's how it works. you move on. You don't expect a freakin' union to protect you from assh0les.
all they do is set wages and benefits, and take your dues.
you have been sukered into believing they "protect jobs."
That just does not happen. If a manager wants to fire you, they do. and your recourse is under the fair labor laws, wether you are union or not. the union doesn't have any teeth in that area. |
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Your language was agressive when you mentioned "humps" and "idiots", and your lack of clarification regarding the difference between "having unions representing" and "joining a union" was vague at best.
Just when would be a good time to hold a union vote? When things are good, and do not rock the business boat? Anytime that a union is requested to come into a shop, the management/ownership is going to freak. In most instances, when unions have gone into any work site, there have been issues that needed to be addressed and people who felt that they needed representation.
WRONG TIME TO JOIN A UNION? There is no wrong time or right time, just a perceived need, actaul or not, for professional negotiators to represent workers.
Bindaredundat, leaving work places that have idiots in charge is fine when you're working in Beaudunk, WhateverState, but Portland is in the top 25 market size, so some people may want to actually stay somewhere and put down roots.
Unions do offer some protection, not total protection, but some is protection is better than none, ...at least that's what yer Pappa told yer Mamma!
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