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Atlanta Murders |
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06/04/2005 |
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I happen to have in my possession, the entire police file on Clifford Jones. I've had this file, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act, for a number of years.
Atkidpro: You are grossly incorrect in your conclusions in this case.
First, according to FBI and Police records, James Brooks continued to be a suspect in the murder of Clifford Jones, several weeks after Wayne Williams' arrest. There was tremendous conflict among investigators and their superiors as to whether the arrest Brooks for Clifford's murder.
Secondly, the autopsy report on Clifford Jones, corroborated with the eyewitness accounts, states that Clifford was strangled (ligature) and was sodomized.
One of the witnesses, Fred Cosby, DID NOT flunk two polygraph tests! Nor was Cosby "retarded" as stated by some. He was deemed a "slow learner."
Finally, the fiber match that Atkidpro speaks of, was a WRONGFUL match. The man who first made that match, Dr. Harold Deadman, the former FBI Chief Fiber Expert, admitted that he mistakenly matched fibers from the trunk of a 1979 Ford LTD to Jones and two other vicitms. Deadman's on-camera admission is contained in a Court-TV documentary which recently re-ran on Court-TV.
In addition, the State PURPOSELY omitted Clifford Jones from it's "pattern cases" at trial. Because, the State knew that the Jones Case disrupted it's flawed logic; that if Wayne Williams killed one, he killed all 29 vicitms. The Jones Case, more than any other case, makes the State's overall case against Williams fall apart like a house of cards. |
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Nuts, you think I'm incorrect, no grossly incorrect, about my conclusions which happen to be the same conclusions reached by the Atlanta Police, the FBI, the GBI and the DA's office.
I see. The police, the DA, the FBI, the GBI and I are all wrong. You are right.
You are starting to sound like Wayne Williams himself.
Cops think they got the right guy all the time.
Richard Jewll mean anything to you? Give me a break. Police squabble all the time. That means NOTHING. And you know it.
Prosecutor have to decide what will hold up in court.
If you would go to trial based on Freddie Cosby - whose OWN MOTHER told prosecutors she wouldn't believe anything he said - then thank God you are not a prosecutor.
I would be happy to email you an FBI 302 describing the "retarded" child who flunked "two polygraphs." This one is sitting on my desk.
Some case you got.
I guess your theory is that Mr Brooks wanted to murder a young boy and invited an eyewitness into the room to watch, then let the kid go talk to police. Then the evil prosecutors ignored all this, let another year slip by, another dozen deaths so they could pin it on a middle class child of two educators.
Perfect logic.
Now, let's put this fiber thing to rest. Dr. Deadman was not the first to make the fiber match. The GBI was first. To back them up, prosecutors brought in the FBI and Royal Canadian forensic experts. They all agreed.
Dr. Deadman was hoodwinked in the documentary. Once and for all, here is why:
Wayne drove a Ford LTD for a while. Ford trunk fibers show up on the bodies of the victims. During the trial Homer Williams says it couldn't have happened because they didn't have the Ford LTD during that time. And to prove it, he produces 3 rental car agreements.
So, it sounds like a problem. Ford trunk fibers on the kids. No Ford car in Wayne's possession.
But - wait. Those 3 rental agreements Homer has:The rental cars were FORDS. Guess what kind of trunk liners a FORD has.
So, they tell Deadman during the documentary Wayne didn't have the Ford LTD but don't tell him that Wayne had another FORD car. Then Deadman responds. He wasn't given all the facts.
And the testimony from fiber experts was clear: All the Ford's had the same type trunk liners.
By the way, young journalists, this was all discussed DURING THE TRIAL!!!!!!
This is nothing new. Prosecutors had the right FORD fibers, the wrong FORD.
But luckily, Wayne's dad handed it back to them on a silver platter.
Why did the state PURPOSELY omitt the JONES case from the trial?
Because, going into trial Jone's body was covered in beige trunk liner fibers. They had nothing to match it to. They had no idea where they came from and they didn't match anything of Wayne's. So, they left Clifford out.
But, Guess what color one of those Ford rental cars was: BEIGE. Just like all the Beige trunk fibers on Clifford's body.
And you say it all falls apart like a house of cards? It got stronger DURING the TRIAL with testimony from Wayne's own DAD.
Man, it hurts when you can't just throw wild accusations around to people who don't know any better, doesn't it?
Journalists everywhere remember one thing. 12 jurors. Black and white, listened for two months to every single thread of evidence. They watched Wayne's ugly combative testimony. They heard all of this, plus how he choked his own father. They had no problem with his guilt.
And the murders stopped.
By the conspiracy geeks definition, we have to include every single black male murdered in Atlanta between the ages of 9-28 since Wayne's arrest.
That is like saying every college girl murdered in America after Ted Bundy's death is related and proves his murders didn't stop with his arrest.
Please.
The murders stopped the night Wayne was caught on the bridge and anyone with an IQ over 50 can see it.
Even Freddie would admit that.
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