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Topic Name: 60 Minutes Wednesday out
Message Name: Take A Breath, Mapes....
Date Posted: 05/18/2005
In Reply To: and rub it in over at CBS. That story took a lot of hard digging, and if it hadn't been exposed people in this country wouldn't know how we are treating the prisoners in that prison. It is important to remember that most of the prisoners in that prison, WEREN'T terrorist or insurgents, although they may be now. It exposed a lot of bad and the American people demanded that it be fix. The problem continues, if not at Abu Ghraib, then most certainly at Gitmo. They held that story for weeks waiting for the Pentagon to do something about it. Did they do something? Answer: They grabbed a few grunts who were the face of the problem and sent them to jail, and slapped a couple of the lower ranking senior officers. That story did many things. It helped to build pressure to force the Pentagon to change some policy. It showed what happens when bad policy is set and acted upon. It deserves a Peabody for bringing to light the abuses at that prison. Were the Kilian documents a screw up? Yes, a major f*!# up. But that has nothing to do with this story. BTW- Does anyone see anything suspicious about WH behavior. Someone brings embarrassing stories to their attention. They say no comment, and other people in the administration or Civil Service confirm them. Once the stories air or are printed they jump all over the story. Why don't they just deny it when they are asked the first time? I think it is part of a campaign to undermine the press. Throw out some bogus news, or tips. A media starved for news because of strict control will bite. When asked for confirmation they do the no comment, and/or privately confirm. When the story airs they, and their proxies (Drudge, Rush, Coulter) JUMP all over them accusing them of everything from liberal bias to treason. Media loses confidence in itself, and people lose trust in the media. Thus you end up with a neutered press that no one trusts running front-page stories about the president's iPod.
Message: Hard digging in "breaking" the Abu Ghraib scandal? You've got to be joking. The military broke news of an investigation into possible prisoner abuse some three months before the "60 Minutes II" broadcast aired. You spin the timeline as if CBS was doing the Pentagon a favor by delaying the broadcast. Fact is, the story didn't have much to it until the photos of Lynndie England and company were mailed, MAILED to CBS News. After months of lefties in the mainstream news media pointing fingers at President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld regarding Abu Ghraib, it's amusing to read more accusations of "it starts at the top." You think the president, Graner and England were in cahoots from day one?? Don't tell me... No, this story has nothing to do with Memogate. But any report stating Mary Mapes "broke" the Abu Ghraib scandal is flat-out wrong. Where were the reporters when the military announced possible abuse of detainees? Why the three-month gap between the military's official announcement and CBS' initial report? All about the pictures. Give the Peabody to Newman or Cliff Clavin. They'd have as much to do with the awards as Mapes, Rather or anyone else working on that program.

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