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How to sack a recruiter? |
| Message Name: |
Here's a thought |
| Date Posted: |
05/12/2001 |
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I have reached a point in my search for a new position where I am very unhappy with the standard of service I am receiving from the recruiter who represents me.
Because I am looking for work in a new city, I contacted a recommended recruitment agency with links to all the large companies in this industry. The recruiter (Mr X) and I spoke on the phone for about an hour regarding my needs and possible positions I may fill. Mr X "sold" his company, the fact that they were a preferred supplier for many large companies, and could offer access to positions that sounded very interesting.
I lodged my CV with Mr X, who then lodged it with HR departments at nearly 20 major employers. That was six weeks ago. Since then, Mr X has done nothing! We have spoken on several occasions, when I have seen him advertising positions that are exactly the type of role I am searching for. He always has a petty reason why I am not really suitable for that particular job. Basically, he only puts me forward for positions at or below my current level.
I have decided that Mr X is not representing me in a way I am comfortable with. A second recruiter who I contacted, Mr Y, is very keen to discuss me with department heads (rather than HR people). If Mr Y can set up a few interviews, how do I go about sacking Mr X?
My concern is the fact that Mr X seems to "own" me, now that he has submitted my resume. This really sucks. What is the best way to let the company know he no longer represents me? I don't want to risk getting black-listed by HR departments, but I also don't want to miss out on a job because of an incompetent recruiter.
I would appreciate any advice that people can offer on this matter. |
| Message: |
I'm a recruiter who like Mr. Y, have had candidates wonder how to get out from under Mr. X.
The problem is this...once Mr. X submits you to a company, most companies will consider you "his" candidate, "his" submission.
I know this because what happens to me somewhat regularly is that I will call a candidate, discuss an opportunity and every detail I can think of about it, submit their resume and be told by HR that the company would like to interview them...only to find out a few days or a week later that, oops, Mr. X's company already submitted him WITHOUT the candidate's knowledge.
To bad Mr. Y and Mr. Candidate you must go with Mr. X even though Mr. Y was the motivating force behind the company's interest since Mr. Y took more time and provided a more extensive presentation than Mr. X who just faxed or emailed Mr. Candidate's resume in after which it got lost in the shuffle only to be found later by HR...again without the candidates knowledge.
Now it seems to me there are two methods recruiters use regarding submittals...
1. NEVER send a candidate anywhere without telling them where, giving them website info covering everything you can think of about the position and company with the Candidate.
2. A Recruiter who has one phone screen with candidate...get's the candidate's permission to submit his resume where ever he deems it fit and doesn't bother to even send candidate an email telling him where he has been submitted.
Hence when Mr. Candidate begins working with another (better) recruiter who does bother to inform him, Mr. X has already been around the block and gets to claim representation.
The only possible solution is if Mr. Candidate can talk Mr. X's company into writing a release letter stating they will release representation and allow candidate to chose who he prefers to represent him.
The companies will usually not get in the middle of a recruiter war...this is when I bow out, but some recruiters will not. Companies do not want to risk getting in the middle of a lawsuit between a couple of ridiculous recruiters who want to fight over a candidate.
The best advice I can give you is don't ever give ANY recruiter (unless you have worked with them for a long time and know you can trust them)..don't ever give them the green light to send your resume anywhere they want.
Insist that you be told about every opportunity you are being submitted for and insist on knowing company information and salary information and everything information! If they won't give you these things...then find one who will...they are out there...I'm one of them.
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