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Topic Name: J.Assoc & Assoc
Message Name: Holland
Date Posted: 01/03/2006
In Reply To: Hi Stan, my understanding of the way it works in Germany is as follows. The two primary entry routes are "Fellow" and "Associate". There is now a third one which is the BA equivalent. As a Fellow (called "Fellow Associate", later "Fellow Senior Associate"), you're pre-MBA/pre-PhD (so I guess equivalent to JA?), work for 2 years and then get a year off for a further degree... be it MBA, PhD or sth else. So it doesn't need to be an MBA, but a second degree (whatever it may be) is the norm. The alternative is to start directly as an Associate, which one can do with either an MBA or a PhD. There is now a BA equivalent in Germany as well, which is aimed at Bachelor students. I don't know the details of this route though.
Message: In Amsterdam Fellow is the equivalent to the American BA: Fellow; MBA; Associate; EM; AP; Partner. My friend got a Junior Associate offer which has a base salary in between Fellow/BA and Associate and means you are expected to make full Associate quicker due to your additional education or previous work experience.

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