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Ivy vs. Non |
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I have to say... |
| Date Posted: |
02/16/2001 |
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I agree that what school is better is a debatable topic. It's all what you make of it anyhow.
I do want to point out though, that there are many people here at Penn (and I'm sure HYP and Stanford, etc...)that are stuck up and more caught up with the fact that they are in an institution whose name is indicative of higher standards of education than actually getting a decent education. These people (like those on this forum who care so much about the name of the school (whether it be Penn, Harvard, Wharton, UCLA, or Northwestern)) I think are the bane of the Ivies, give rise to arguments why Ivy Leaguers are snobs, and lead to the degradation of the educational experience. I'm sorry if I generalize to much to those people who simply have a bit of school pride, but MANY of these cocky students really have this problem.
I know much about this just by observing the internal dynamics of students here at Penn. I agree that the Engineering school is harder than Wharton to completely learn and grasp the learning at hand, and as a result there are many cocky Wharton students who think less of their Engineering students, and again these are those individuals whose type I outlined above.
However, I think that "hardest" is really a vague term. Although it's a bitch to get an A in Engineering vs. Wharton on avg, everything is relative to your peers when it comes down to your goal. (in this case a career because education/learning cares not about GPA, etc..)
So although getting an A is easier in Wharton, when the end objective is a financial services or consulting job with a top firm, and you are compared to your peers, you have to consider the competitive environment. Wharton is by far more competitive than engineering in both spirit and GPA. That higher GPA of Wharton students is not there because Wharton is neccessarily easier or because Wharton profs go easy on us for career reasons, but it exists more as a result of highly competitive people in a highly competitive environment. Sometimes you feel as if you've got to be able to "drink the blood of your own children" quote one professor here at Wharton, because per class grades are curved also. So even though some Engineering classes are curved, I'm sure that the technical jobs many Engineers are aiming for do will consider GPA's under a 3.5. At Wharton, even if you're smart, you still gotta compete within a very high, narrow space (of GPA and experience and personality), which is much more difficult. I've got to have some pride in busting my ass :)
I am an adamant believer in the truth in that Playboy ranking of Penn girls as 300+... on average Penn girls are ugly, and many are stuck up. I mean, come on, one or the other please. There are some hot girls here, the majority of which are stuck up, but the lack of beauty here, given that we are a large school, is very overwhelming.
Regardless if Penn/Wharton has a better reputation, I still envy all those UCLA bastards with cute girls like the one you mentioned.
Also as I'm so long-winded, maybe I should try consulting... although it seems engineers and science majors would have better chances than us business majors. Also hopefully that 3.8 cutoff rumor I heard about top tier strat consult. firms isn't true :)
- Given up on beer goggles.
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..whenever I start seeing the "ugly and stuck-up" girls bit, I get this overwhelming feeling that the speaker is most likely very intelligent but socially unconscious. The only people I have personally known who spend this much time examining which schools have the hottest-coolest-ugliest-dumbest-snobbiest-etc. girls, are those who feel threatened by real girls. Now this may not apply to you personally, but definitely the topic makes me wonder.
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