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Topic Name: Ivy vs. Non
Message Name: ridiculous
Date Posted: 02/13/2001
In Reply To: Okay guys. I went to Bucknell..nationally ranked 25 by (US NEWS...). TREE HUGGING, MOUNTAIN CLIMBING LIBERALS I am not talking about the Amhersts POT SMOKING ALCOHOLICS , Swathmores, FUTURE PSYCHO MASS MURDERERS Williams HARVARD REJECTS I am talking about schools like Colgate COLUMBIA REJECTS Bucknell, Vassar SOCIALLT INEPT FREAKS In one of my Finance classes as a senior at BU, I asked the proffessor (who used to be an exec at Goldman-he attended both Dartmouth and Columbia) what is the real difference between the IVY's and a school like mine? He said that the top 1/3(in intelligence) of the class at any of the 25/30 liberal arts schools can compete with the IVY student without any problems. DO YOU OFTEN QUOTE YOUR PROFESSORS? DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU LEARN!! As for getting an education-the liberal arts schools have small classes that are very interactive and the prof knows the name of every student, thus creating an exceptional learning atmosphere... HAND HOLDING. AT IVY'S YOU'RE ENCOURAGED TO LEARN BY TAKING ON YOUR OWN POINT OF VIEW, THEY ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE INDEPENDENT AND FREE THINKING NOT SIT AROUND SHARE YOUR FEELINGS LIKE YOU'RE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL How do you get a IB or or top MAN CONS job like Bain, MCK etc, ? GO TO AN IVY AND GET A GOOD EDUCATION ..hopefully connections got you the summer internship with the firm otherwise it is hard to do it straight up. Regardless of how Corporate America views us, top liberal arts schools produce highly qualified individuals. SURE, I AGREE. As for State Schools- don't ever discount UCLA, PERVERTS UNC, DUKE REJECTS UVA GUN WIELDING HICKS AND BIMBO PROM QUEENS, UT, BIGOTS or MICH. WANNABE IVY LEAGUERS WHO THINK THEY ARE ATHLETIC. MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE TOO COLD TO THINK They produce talented individuals- ones that can easily compete with the IVY's. NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT Don't assume a student at Princeton is smarter than the one from UCLA. ASSUME, ASSUME!!! What if the student chose UCLA becuase his parents could not afford Princeton (or schools like Amherst), wanted greater diversity in college , preffered the location or all of the above? THEN HE WAS STUPID, I WENT TO IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL 100% THROUGH LOANS AND WORKING THREE JOBS, DON;T TELL ME IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS, THESE ARE EXCUSES Also many these states schools have "Honors Programs" that have individuals just as smart as the IVY's if not smarter. HONORS? SO IT'S LIKE, HONORS REMEDIAL? PENN STATE WISH THEY WERE UPENN All in all, if you want to succeed you need strong work ethic,intelligence, and people skills. A combination of these three will get you far regardless of which three institution you attended WHAT SCHOOL YOU ATTEND TOTALLY HAS A BEARING ON HOW SUCCESSFUL YOU WILL BE, IT'S NOT ONLY IN THE NAME, BUT THE KIND OF EDUCAITON YOU HAD THERE. AT IVY'S YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO BE FIERCELY INDEPENDENT AND STRONG-MINDED. IT'S SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST. BUT IT IS ALSO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN EXPLORE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING AND SUCCEED BC THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THERE UNDERSTAND SOONER OR LATER THAT THEY HAVE BEEN GRACED WITH AN UNBELIEVABLE OPPORTUNITY.
Message: OK, after lurking on this thread for a while, I have to respond. This anonymous forum is great for pigheaded comments like the one above; you can spout whatever nonsense you like, and see the reactions... The choice of undergrad college is personal and multifactorial. And guess what... perhaps we don't all know exactly what we want to do for the rest of our lives when we're 17! I went to Bucknell, went to an Ivy league medical school, practiced at an Ivy league academic medical center, and am now at an elite consulting firm. According to you, I'm a tree-hugging liberal who's fared terribly in my career aspirations because of my poor choice of undergrad college. Boo hoo for me. Frankly, if you're driven, bright, and want it bad enough, you can succeed from wherever you start, whether it's a state school, small liberal arts college, or Ivy. Life would be pretty boring if everyone you worked with came from the same place and did all the same things. So grow up and stop the idiotic stereotyping. And by the way, Bucknell IS a pretty conservative place... not exactly the bleeding-heart liberal enclave that you describe.

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