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Salary Range |
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Quit your bitching |
| Date Posted: |
01/09/2001 |
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Thanks for the advice. As a "seasoned manager and consultant," I'm sure you are as stupid and worthless as 90% of the other managers I've encountered. (Thought I'd get my petty insult in as well.)
Anyway, if you had read my post more carefully you'd see that the $$$ is not my primary motivation. I want to learn more and do work that interests me. That is why I want to leave. Big 5 work is simply not challenging or interesting for ME. That's not to say that other people don't find it so. That said, I just don't know too many people who'd take a paycut in this industry when standard fare is a 20% hike for leaving. If that makes me an egomaniac, then so be it.
You are a typical manager, throwing your 2 cents in, even when it adds no value, just to justify your presence. I don't "obsess" about meager low-level consulting salaries, realizing that people who make money in this world are the people who bring it in, either for themselves or their employers. What I obsess about it the process of getting there. Read more closely Mr. Manager.
As for get my head out of the clouds, listen, watch, learn, and then earn (very catchy) .... that might be good advice. But to say that someone going to a big 5 doesn't know anything compared to the experienced folks, that's just asinine. What people coming out of school don't know is that working for a big 5 company is often a career death trap.
Where it's DC or AC or whatever, new hires are often forced into bullshit work where they don't learn anything, but are paid enough to numb themselves into a false reality. I've been lucky enough to avoid most of that relative to the work I've seen my friends get sucked into doing, but it still ain't that great. If it were, I wouldn't be thinking about leaving.
So you can take all that so-called knowledge you've gained from sitting back and watching as your career flashed before your eyes, and shove it. If I thought I would learn ANYTHING here, I might stay, but "graduating" to a middle management position isn't my idea of learning. |
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Thats great you hate your job, think all managers suck and all your coworkers are idiots. All of you sound like a bunch of whinny, self-important jackasses.
Who should do all the "shit" work? The new kid just out of school or someone who has proven themselves over several years? It's like you all expect to start a new job and be the boss!
If the Big 5 is full of morons, where will you go? Some MegaGigantaCorp company or some strugling Internet start-up? Do you think you wont have the problems there?
If you really think you can do a better job, go start your own company. Then we'll see how good you really are at business strategy.
Now get back to work.
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