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George Masons and Others |
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GWU |
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05/14/2000 |
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I am a GW Alum (MPA not MBA, but the same SBPM), and not the original poster, but I'll answer your questions one by one:
"While your school spirit is admirable, your opinions are misguided. George Washington's business school is not even in the top 50. When it comes to business schools, I would argue that any school below the top 15 are regional no-brand players. There are some on this board that would argue that brand name doesn't really matter unless you are going to the top 5-7HBS,Sloan,Wharton,Stanford,etc...)MBA programs. So to compare GW to GM is sort of pointless."
You are correct. Actually any school outside the top 5 or 7 are basically regional. But to think there is no difference between regional schools is just plain wrong. According to the Washington Post, GW ranked around #53 for its full time program and dropped to #27 for it's Part time program. (MBA) http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/beyond/gradrank/gbmbasp12.htm
Its NP concentration ranked #11:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/beyond/gradrank/gbmbas11.htm
Now none of this is to impressive, and GWU is not known as a business school, but where does George Mason even register in any ranking of business schoolS? And since I assume the original poster is looking at Part Time programs in the DC Area, Only UMD and GWU rank in the top 30....for MBA.
"Candidates should weigh other factors.
BTW, WHO ARE THE CADRE OF FAMOUS ALUMNI FROM THE BUSINESS SCHOOL? CAN YOU NAME A COUPLE?"
MBA: Colin Powell, Tom Daschle, Darla Moore to name a few....go to www.gwu.edu for more. BTW, who ever went to George Mason?
And that's just the business school. The indeed University has a "cadre" of famous alumni that is too long to list, and is what I think the original poster was talking about.
(Ie Jackie Bouvier, Kent Starr, but literally hundreds)
"Regarding law school, GW does have a fairly good law program.
Their undergraduate program stinks though. I would not say being the top 47 school qualifies it as selective, especially since there are a whole tier of other schools that included as small liberal arts colleges (like Amherst and Williams) which are much more selective and prestigious than GW. If all schools were taken into account, you might find the GW undergrad program finishing in around 100 if it's lucky."
Your assesment of GW is a fair one if you attend HYPS and top State schools like UVA, Berkeley, etc. However, ranking #47 is not bad...as a comparison George Mason ranked in the fourth tier. And while you say institutional name doesn't matter, I can tell you that in the DC area, GW MBA carries much more weight than George Mason.
Additionally, FOR MBA, George Mason folded its full tiem program anyway, so unless the original poster wants to go Part time, The discussion is moot.
GW is not Wharton or Kellogg by any stretch of the imagination, but to compare it to GMU is equivalent to comparing Boston College to UMass-Amherst.
It's apples and oranges and no one is arguing that either of those schools will get you into McKinsey and Co., but there is a difference between George Washington and George Mason. |
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You made very good points. I lived and worked in the DC area before going back to business school, and I had not heard of either program.
I actually went to the GW alumni area to see who they were. It seems most of the alumni of GW are military or government folk who did their MBAs on the side. It was interesting nonetheless.
What I still can't figure out is how going to gw over gm matters in terms of career and job placement (even in the dc area). What type of firms recruit at GW but don't recruit at GM? Please don't say the military ones.
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