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MBA Rankings |
| Message Name: |
Don't fret |
| Date Posted: |
12/27/2000 |
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I really hate them. I applied there and was rejected. I don't know why, my credentials were good. I managed to get to other schools, that I now believe are better choice.
HBS is a place for losers. Not matter how much they believe they are great, they are a bunch of losers.
The case method is a joke, they never do numbers and their big picture thinking is retarded.
It is only unfair that they get all the best jobs and I cannot get interviews with McKinsey or Bain or Goldman because all the spots are taken by them.
HBS is an anomaly in the world, a privilege that should be destroyed. I would never work for someone from HBS, because I am sure I would be better than them, but still he will be the boss always, just because that is how things are.
Bottom line, I hate them. |
| Message: |
Don't fret too much. I didn't get into Stanford. As a matter of fact, I got dinged from Stanford for college, graduate school, and then the MBA. Those fine folk over there really had it in for me. No big deal, ended up attending the two large schools in Cambridge, MA instead.
As to whether or not your assessment of HBS is accurate, I'd say not really, but you do have a point about life being unfair. HBS people do get some fine jobs, and a sizable fraction of them got such plum jobs just because they were at HBS. Their innate ability was not that much a deciding factor.
But now that we are in the mood, let me tell you a story. My background before HBS was not in Finance, but in science and engineering. For the summer, I wanted very badly an internship in sales, trading, and research, since I really liked Finance (especially the quant aspects) after my first year. I applied to every damn place I could (about 25-30 resumes or so). I attended the presentations, schmoozed like a champ, kissed butt with the best. I got "hell weekend" (the formal recruiting period in February or so for first years) dings from everybody, some firms not even bothering to send me a polite "you suck" letter. Just to add salt to the wound, there were classmates of mine who weren't particular standouts with 7 or 8 offers! I have, by the way, some very fine credentials that indicate that ability to do the job was not really an issue. I regrouped and did the following: Contacted a friend of mine from a previous HBS class, and asked him to put me in the interview list for a job at his firm (well known bulge bracket) that I was not quite suited for (straight IB), just so he could shunt me to the right people with his blessing. I also talked to a classmate of mine who landed a fine job in the buy side, but wasn't going to take it, and asked him to recommend me to the people that made him an offer. I ended up getting offers from both of these places, and took a trading and research job at the top BB place. Come second year, I was contacted by every damn bank with invitations to dinners and parties and suck-em-up shrimp events at the Charles. Interviewed with five firms, landed five offers (GS, MS, JPM, Fido, plus the one I ended up taking). The only reason I did so well was because of my summer job. I was not a better person: I was not better looking than before, I was not smarter, and I was not any less ambitious or qualified. The fact that one top firm decided to offer me a job was sufficient for all the other ones to change their minds on a dime. That is inherently unfair, and it happens even if you go to HBS.
Cheers,
Yabai
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