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best schools for money outside top 15 |
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Perconcieved Notions |
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06/28/2001 |
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<<< You know what happens when you assume...don't you? >>>
Yes, you usually make the correct assumption if the assumption is made on statistical odds.
I said I assume that black people at top law schools and good BIGLAW jobs got where they were on affirmative action.
It's a fact that it's a heckuva lot easier for a black guy to get into a BIGLAW feeder school than it is for a white. It's also a fact that BIGLAW goes out of its way to hire black associates.
Therefore it would be ignorant and stupid to assume that the black got there on the merit of his undergraduate grades and LSAT score and law school grades the way the white guy did.
I am certainly not ignorant and stupid. Not any more. It was ignorant and stupid of me to go to law school in the first place, but that's back when I was young and ignorant and stupid. |
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Why do you have to assume anything? Why isn't it possible that that person earned the position they have attained. By your own statements you have a perconcieved notion in your head regarding any minority you see in a certain position. Some got there through AA some got there through merit. The converse of the statement you made is that the white guy earned his position but isn't it also a possibility that the school owed his rich daddy a favor or he had an inside connection. It is no mystery that people in those circles tend to self-promoting.
However, it is wrong to assume that they automatically got there by some shady connection that other students did not have the benefit of. Likewise it is wrong to assume that any minority you see got their b/c of AA.
I have friends that have gone to both Columbia and Harvard. They don't grade(except to define who is the top ten), half the classes are tought w/o the use of the Socratic method. (believe me it makes a huge difference in the rate at which you aquire useful info.) No one flunks out there b/c that is their standard policy. It has nothing at all to do with ethnicity.
As for the comment about the truly influencial legal mind, and his unfortunate inability to make it b/c he did not get to go to his IVY school due to AA. That is ridiculous, that presupposes that he cannot make it from wherever he graduates from. He could go to Cooley, and if he is a brillant legal thinker, who is hard working he will have the same impact. Charles Hamilton Houston, Thourgood Marshall- (both howard grads, that changed the way Americans think about the world and the face of law itself) neither of them went to IVy school. As I said in a previous posting: if you can think, write, speak and evaluate like a great attorney then nothing can stop you from becoming exactly that. Barriers are made to be broken.
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