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harvard law..the biggest fraud in education |
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Just some thoughts, more in response to above: |
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07/03/2002 |
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Bigassbrando,
Here you go:
http://discuss.review.com/forums/index.cfm?cfApp=6
People over there are more into your particular posting style. |
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No falme at all, but some disagreement
I just cannot buy the "piece of paper" argument. I didn't go to Harvard (or yale or stanford), but without ANY-- and did i say ANY--question I think that the most valuable thing I did get from my lower-top-10 (Mich) education was The Professors....
I took crim law with Kamisar (a la Miranda), contracts w/jj white (a la the UCC), property with Krier (a la your textbook) and Simpson (a la english legal history), and "sex equality" with kitty mckinnon (a la this body of law). Bill Miller taught me "bloodfeuds" and "disgust" (a la most of what I have previously mentioned & more).
THIS was an AMAZING experience,despite the fact that not one of these professors could've card less about preparing me to practice or (for that matter) for the bar exam.
I assure you that Barbri does a fine job of that (bar).
Also, I mentioned the one's above because they are somewhat "famous," but I also had courses taught by unknowns that were equally wonderful. ALL of them, truly, were extremely interested in meeting students outside of class.
Indeed, it was almost (at times) like a potlatch where each professor tried to outdo the other in terms of availability. Groups of 8 of us would glom together to take somebody out to lunch, and the the &*&# would pay. The next weekend some other prof would have a barbecue for 180 1-L's on his property. Honest-to-god, a potlatch.
In any event, truly, this was a faculty devoted to "being there."
And so I disagree. Whatever professor such and so might have taught me at lawchool XYZ, i don't think that anything will ever compare to the fun I had. It is different, though by no means better, to learn crim from Kamisar (or, for that matter, con law from Tribe). Granted, you don't actuall LEARN any crim law from Kamisar (who then tests you as if you had), but can you THINK of more fum that listening to this radical maniac spout praises of Brenna? C'mon, THIS is fun.
Likewise with pedigree. I'm sure that many doors have been closed or are only "cracked" open to me given my school, but I wouldn't take all of the potentially easier "ins" fo all the world. I couldn't have near as much fun in a similar world.
If you've never been late for JJ White's "comm trans," you haven't lived. If you've never watched him *ANSWER* a student's cell phone (when it rang in class for the second day running), you haven't laughed hard enough. You really haven't (and imagine the poor asshole who called..).
Anyway, law school IS all about learning. I realize that once one has practiced for a few years this might seem otherwise, but the experience is one of those "priceless opportunities."
[note thogh, that it is very late and I should be doing "future interest" flashcards.... I'd like to get my hands on either or both krier or simpson right now...).
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