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Topic Name: Transfer?
Message Name: With all due respect
Date Posted: 03/12/2002
In Reply To: I don't know where you got your stats that only 30 percent of the folks who graduate law school go to private firms. That was not the case at my third tier, nor, I suspect, at most third tiers. I also don't know why you assume that most public jobs are held by people who stay in the public sector without material income for their entire career. Most folks I know who do public sector use it to gain experience before they go private. I tend to tell people who cannot get into top law schools to minimize debt, but your notion that I don't know what graduating from a lesser law school is like is fallacious, because I did graduate from a lesser law school. By and large, people, including those outside the top 10 percent, did find jobs. They pounded the pavement and by and large worked out fine. So what seems untrue to you may not be untrue for everyone. Your experience is not the universal standard. I don't buy into the stuff folks post on the board here that this necessarily reflects badly on you, but similarly I don't buy your notion that your experience is the universal model. Tons of people do graduate from 3rd tier law schools without law journal and make a good living. In downtimes, a percentage of lawyers are unemployed or underemployed. But your construct, that most lawyers are, is inaccurate.
Message: My dear gurdonark, you consistently give good advice, but on this point (and forgive me for saying so), you may be a little outdated. Certainly, the situation is not quite as bad as bob_d portrays, but, just as certainly, job placement these days is not even close to the rosy picture you paint. When you went to law school, it may have been the case that third-tier graduates could find good jobs, but I think the competition is much fiercer today. bob_d's mantra about needing to graduate from a top 14 or otherwise suffer unemployment is extreme, and I don't necessarily agree with it. However, I do agree with him that the present economy is terrible, and associate positions are scarcer than ever. I have many friends (recent grads from top 14 schools, no less) who are unemployed. If these people are having a tough time in the job market, I can only imagine how difficult it is for a lower-tier grad to find a good job. Of course, bob_d's experience is not the universal standard. Nevertheless, he is right in pointing out that things are a lot worse than you think.

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