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Topic Name: What are my chances for NYU or Columbia
Message Name: Please Don't Even Bother
Date Posted: 03/26/2001
In Reply To: Hello, I was wondering if anyone could give me an idea if I have a realistic shot at Columbia or NYU law school. I have two years of work experience so I am not sure how this effects my application: Stats- School: William and Mary Major: Government Minors: Economics, Sociology Work Experience: 2 yrs at Deloitte Consulting as a Business Analyst - specialize in Communications and High Tech industry LSAT: 164 (planning to take again) Grades: According to LSAC I have a 3.7 cumulative GPA, but I transferred to W&M and my W&M GPA is only a 3.4 Transfer coursework from: UVA and Virginia Tech I am interested in Patent or Intellectual Property Law and I plan to articulate this on the application. Thanks for any opinions and/or advice.
Message: Your profile looks interesting but you really have no chance. Your LSATs are way too low. In your case you will need at least a 170. You did not go to a good school. William and Mary and UVA (not VaTech) are okay, but not as good as the elite level schools where most of Columbia's and NYU's students come from. Work experience could help a bit, but you worked for a so-so Big 5 consulting firm, not Bain, BCG or McKinsey. Your grades are okay, maybe a bit low for NYU or Columbia, but you really can't do anything about that. Especially notefworthy is your downward grade trend. I have heard that W&M is tough with grading but it seems like you dropped a little too much. My advice, unless you dramatically increase your LSAT score, would be to apply better-shot schools like UVA, Michigan, and Cornell. Keep in mind, these are not safeties, but you would have at least a fifty-fifty shot at these schools. You seem to be a shoe in at at schools like Vanderbilt, William and Mary, Washington and Lee, and Emory, etc. But the top five, i.e. Yale, Harvard, Stanford, NYU and Columbia are really unrealistic for you. Good luck.

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