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KPMG is my dream firm! |
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You bring up some important issues |
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02/11/2006 |
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I dealt with KPMG in-house recruiters several years ago and my experience did not match your description. The recruiter made me cool my heels while KPMG took its sweet time lining up an interview schedule, told me repeatedly not to accept any other offer until I heard from KPMG, took a very long to extend an offer, and then pressured me to decide immediately whether to accept. The offer was well below market, and KPMG increased it only when I informed them of this. This should have told me something was amiss, but I fell for it and accepted the offer. When the position turned out to be nothing like the one KPMG described during the recruiting process, I confronted the recruiter. Who ducked and said it wasn't their problem.
So let me ask you, kpmgrecuiter, what will happen if a recruit asks for it in writing? I don't mean the job offer, but the specifics on which KPMG expects the recruit to rely? For example, let's assume the job is in the tax dep't. KPMG says the job involves tax consulting, not tax compliance. KPMG says they have sufficient tax consulting work to allow the recruit to meet their billable hour requirement, and that the recruit will not have to seek out tax consulting work on their own because the firm will provide it. KPMG tells th recruit they have the type of tax consulting work in which the recruit specializes (an experienced hire) from the clients of the particular practice group in which recruit will work, and that the recuit will not have to seek such work from other parts of KPMG.
The recruit will quite naturally rely on such specific representations in deciding whether to accept an offer from KPMG, or any other firm, for that matter. If the recruit asks KPMG to put all these material representations of present facts in writing, so that KPMG will be breach of contract should the reality of the job turn out to be different, will KPMG oblige? Would you oblige? If not, why not?
Or will the recruit just have to take it on faith that KPMG would never misrepresent the position? Like KPMG would never issue a more-likely-than-not tax opinion if it didn't really believe in it? Shades of BLIPS!
In a case such as this, what advice would you give the recruit when they tell you the job was nothing like the one pitched during the interview? Would you tell him to suck it up and get back to work? Hire a lawyer and sue, considering fraud in the inducement is a tort in several states, including New York? Quit and find another employer? Would you tell another employer the recruit is leaving because KPMG was unable to deliver the job it promised, and that the recruit is really blameless?
Come on, kpmgrecruiter, let's hear the truth. Tell it like it is. I'm all ears. |
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I cannot speak to the specifics of your problem as I was not there several years ago nor do I know the specifics on your interview scheduling problems or who you dealt with. The foot dragging on the part of the recruiter may (and I say may) have been the result of the availability of an interview team I dont really know. A good recruiter will ask if you have anything eles going on that is time sensitive as far as other offers are concerned and communicate this to the hiring managers who should make every effort to bring your candidacy to a conlusion one way or another; either offer or move on quickly. We benchmark comp in line with the others in the big 4 firms
As for the job itself; I try to paint as realistic a picture as possible to the people I recruit. There is one conversation that I hate to have, is incredibly uncomfortable and time consuming and that is the "But you told me..." converstaion. Truth is that there are positions that are much more compliance in nature than advisory and I will communicate this at the first meeting or phone call. Even the advisory work that may very well turn out to be advisory I will present as having a modicum of compliance work involved. If you post a hotmail account and want to talk about this offline I will be happy to get in touch with you
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