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A Great Job Gone, For No Reason |
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HR Cover-up? Or HR Bias? |
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07/07/2005 |
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HR is getting a bad rap here, when the net net is that the candidate was not truthful on their application.
Other than having several interviews, a company takes a chance on an unknown quanity when they hire someone. The information on the app was not truthful -- that implies integrity issues. Given the current climate in a Sarbanes-Oxley world, we now have an example of what seems like nothing, ending up being something. Falsification of application is grounds for termination at my company, as I'm sure it is at most.
This was not a clerical error on the part of the school, and I don't know anyone who doesn't know when exactly they graduated from college.
Sorry about your luck with this. Let this be a life lesson, that integrity matters. Now, it's time to let that job go; let that company go. Companies are hiring like crazy, and you shouldn't have any trouble finding a position. Just make sure that your qualifications match the requirements for the job that you are applying for.
Good luck with your job search. |
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In 30+ years of employment, I have known both good, and bad, HR departments....but on the hiring process, there are only bad ones.
The truth is: the company's requirements change dynamically. At that point, the hiring manager comes to HR and says "can we get out of this hire", and at that point, ANY excuse for action can, and will, be used.
I was eliminated from a part-time job in college, because I was "hired" directly by the Head of Pathology. The HR manager felt "bypassed", and chose to express her power by refusing to hire me -- AFTER the offer had been tended, and AFTER I had quit my other job!
As far as not being graduated? My own school graduates candidates only once per year -- in May -- even though we finish our credit requirements throughout the year. There are also valid reasons to postpone "official" graduation and to retain student status -- taxation, immigration, and medical insurance, to name a few -- that would cause a person to legitimately postpone graduation. It is not for this forum to automatically assume the truth/untruth of her statement, nor is it cause for summary dismissal of any legitimate job offer.
I believe the HR poster illustrated the bias: "the net net is that the candidate was not truthful on their application".
SIR/MADAM: unless YOU are the person she is complaining about -- you have no right to make such a libelous accusation!!!! The facts in this case have NOT been decided, but you, a member of your Catbert-inspired profession, have seen fit to render a "professional" judgment based on NO paperwork at all!
Let's all stick to the facts, shall we please? HR biases are well known, and the net is an unreliable medium for getting facts.
As far as advice: jobhunting is a crap shoot, and the odds favor the house. Know this before you enter the casino, and bankroll yourself appropriately.
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