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When side-jobs hurt your chances.. |
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08/24/2004 |
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??what i think is right -- is to count every professional today
who does not have a job and *not* due to their lack of
search. i'm advocating that we indeed hear from the feds
if the number is what the LAT says - 16,000,000, or
what the feds *estimate to be* 8,200,000 in july....
that is a hefty difference and the feds should be
accountable, the LAT already proved their case in print.
i would hope that everyone agrees we deserve the
true numbers for what we pay in taxes.??
You act as if you can??t find these numbers on BLS and that the LAT is actually performing their own research. I was hoping that I could get you to figure this out for yourself but I??ll let you in on a little secret. What the LAT??s did was go to BLS:
http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab12.htm
and click on U-6 not seasonally adjusted. Since you haven??t posted the link I can??t be sure what type of adjustment or if they are looking at slightly different numbers (since they used 9.7%) or not but there it is. However, no country is the world counts people who are not looking for unemployment as unemployed if they did France would probably be at 15-17.5% or higher (there is a research project for you).
??i thought you read the story before making comments
c/p
thinkandask.com/news/jobs.htm????
See above. I??m not looking for a link to your site I??m looking for links/sources for your research.
??the french conduct their survey quarterly, because those
on benefits have two years (lowered to two in 2004.)
again, registration is key, if a worker does not register
s/he is not counted. i'd agree for similar registration
practice in the usa.??
First, you??re wrong. They count people who do not register (in addition to those who register) for unemployment benefits for their headline number. Second, wonder if someone doesn??t register for unemployment? Or does so late. Don??t you see the problems with using unemployment benefits? They US also posts weekly data on unemployment benefits called initial and continuing claims but again these have nothing to do with the BLS??s numbers.
??the argument is that BLS *should* change their method and
collect data from those who apply for unemployment benefits,
and even when those benefits run out, the SS# of said person
is tracked until that SS# once again earns a salary or
reaches age of retirement; at which time s/he is no longer
counted.??
This would be far less accurate and costly then the CPS. Who is going to call millions of people each month? How are you going to count the people who are not eligible for unemployment benefits? How are you going to count people who never apply for unemployment benefits? |
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"Who is going to call millions of people each month?"
Just to clarify why you would need to call people and couldn't just rely on them paying taxes or reaching 65:
People choose not to go back to work even if they can (housewives, people retire early, go back to college, etc) are you suggesting that if I retire at 55 I should be counted as unemployed for 10 years? Others quit jobs and never file for unemployment benefits that should be counted but wouldn't be under your method.
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