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Hedge Fund-Dot coms of the 21st Century |
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Closet indexing |
| Date Posted: |
02/05/2002 |
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The debate will always go back and forth, no?
It is absolutely one of the hardest businesses out there. Not only do you have to significantly outperform these insane capital markets (as EMT teaches, which should be highly unlikely, not that we believe EMT), but you also have to be able to market a product which you are legally banned from advertising in any way.
However, there obviously is a pretty significant market need for instruments that do more than go long a few hundred large-cap companies (which is what the mutual fund business has really devolved into, often just pseudo-indexing). The rewards for doing well are relatively outsized, but going into the biz without the right experience, education, contacts and backing is quite foolish, as we'll both agree, I think.
How is the buyout biz going? How did that deal we were talking about last year go? |
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Yep, I did a study once a few years back looking at the betas of a large fraction of the Morningstar universe, including all growth, income, growth & income bullshit classification. The average beta against the S&P 500 was 1.01, with a tight range between 0.9 and 1.1 or so. Closet indexing it was.
Biz was very good last fall from October to December. A bit slower this time of year, but things likely to pick up soon.
A friend of mine in CA forwarded me an e-mail with an article you wrote about why one shouldn't be an investment banker. IB has its upsides, one of them being that you are really in the middle of the action.
Cheers,
Yabai
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