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Manager Offer - Healthcare Consulting |
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Clarification |
| Date Posted: |
03/10/2006 |
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Thanks for your feedback. Are you in LS&H Practice at Deloitte. Do you mind also providing what level you are now/what level you were when you enterd, salary then vs now, education, past experience etc....
Also, are you saying that I can definitely expect less from Deloitte? What are the ranges within LS&H for a manager and senior consultant levels - I know they are different from the the other Practices within Deloitte. Given my experience what do you think I should expect?
Do you think Deloitte's hold in the market will change once the integration of the acquisition of Cap Gemini's Healthcare Practice into Accenture is complete?
In terms of level transalation, I believe both Firms will try to bring you in at a level that is below what you should come in as when applying as an experienced hire....I just happen to know what I needed to do to get the level I wanted at Accenture. The initial position that was communicated to me was Senior Consultant at Deloitte, but I would try (try - I understand that this would not be a guarantee)to get a manager position instead. |
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If they extend you an offer, you should expect it to be fair and competitive. The firm understands that they need to pay the premium if they want the talent. However, your compensation increase by year-end may be thoroughly dismal and unsatisfying. Whether you perform extremely well your first year is almost irrelevant because you are still confined within a specific salary band. Imagine earning a superb performance rating only to receive some insignificant and paltry raise? That is a de-motivating feeling.
Having said that, I still believe the experience is a better one and I do believe we will continue to remain within the top-tier in this market. The "fully-integrated services firm" tagline has really opened my perspectives on a number of projects; I do feel more enlightened. Everyone here should make the effort to take advantage of the organization.
As for Accenture, I think they are weaker in strategy/advisory services. Furthermore, I'm sure you've learned a while ago that many of CGEY's healthcare leaders left long before news of the acquisition (a number joined Deloitte). While that doesn't necessarily diminish the capabilities of their practice, it just means that they lost a significant number of the most skilled/experienced/influential people.
Alternatively, perhaps this affords you a better opportunity to excel, and make obvious a superiority over your peers. *shrugs* Growth and recognition could be pretty good (which potentially means more $$$). I'll also give them a nod for their operations/IT management. They have great methodologies and efficiencies that allow them to price their services more attractively.
Back to the entering-role at Deloitte, based on the description of your background I don't think coming in as a SC is a bad thing. And if the compensation package is attractive, I would even advocate accepting the SC role. Reasoning: You are afforded more time to build your network, to learn/adapt and to make your newbie mistakes without the same consequences as you would as a manager.
Also consider whether you intend to focus in a particular area (e.g., plans, provider, clinical IT) as the regional offices/areas have their particular strengths. If you are able to offer an e-mail address, I'd be glad to discuss this topic without the sensitivities of posting on a public forum.
BTW: I get more accurate information on salaries from this forum than I do outside this forum.
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