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Topic Name: Stanford University
Message Name: I know correlation d
Date Posted: 01/28/2000
In Reply To: What is so strong about an undergraduate education where for two years one has to endure classes that have more than a thousand people? That is akin to just learning from a book by yourself. It certainly does not sound like a top education. In regards to your comment about Berkeley having tougher competition for grades than the Ivies, friend, I think you need to have your head examined. There is no statistical information that could remotely support that statement. All you have to do is compare the freshman class numbers at the Ivies and Berkeley. Berkeley average SAT is in the low 1300's. Penn, the least competitive Ivy has an average in the low 1400's. Harvard's average is around 1500. You still think Berkeley is more competitive? As for the number of PHD's awarded, that is clearly a misleading statistic. Berkeley is 5 times the size of most Ivies. However, if you bothered to check the PROPORTION of people from these schools who go on to get PhD's, then I think you would get a much more realistic picture of what is happening. It is unfortunate that a school like Stanford admitted an idiot like yourself, who obviously has no idea how to conduct basic research. If you are one of the "strong" who "survived" Berkeley, then I do not think I need to write any more anyway.
Message: I know correlation does not equal causation but berkeley and UCLA are the top feeders to medical schools in the nation.

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