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Topic Name: Grade Inflation
Message Name: Chill ivy boy
Date Posted: 01/17/2000
In Reply To: Anyone who believes that the student bodies at Stanford and "the ivies" are "much more" accomplished than that at Berkeley is clearly ignorant. Ivy man, you have a lot of research to do. I think you need to attend a top school that doesn't have grade inflation to appreciate what is being discussed here. I've seen both sides of the coin, and I can attest that there is a huge gulf in grading strictness between campuses. Is it fair? No. Is life fair? No. Grade inflation is a fact. Many private schools are compelled to give out better grades--they have parents of students (who are spending a LOT of money) and future alumni donors to appease. Try making arguments without resorting to your traditional (and tiresome) Ivy League arrogance. I for one certainly don't wish to be where you are.
Message: I did not start this thread to listen to the chip on your shoulder..I only wanted to get a "feel" of what the competetion for grades is like at Ivies. You say that around 30% of the students get A's, well at Cal its around 15-20% and in some classes 10%. There are professors on probation at UC Berkeley and UCLA for not following the departmental guidelines of assigning 15% A's. I started thinking about grade inflation after I contested a grade from last semester (B+ to A-). The professor received her PhD from Stanford and said that although grades don't mean shit there, they mean something here (thus I did not get a grade change!). Also I had a TA that went to Yale, and after our first midterm I asked him if the grading system was as intense there. He laughed and said "not even close". He also said the environment at Yale did not have the competitive test taking element.

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