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Topic Name: UGLY DUCLKLING OF IVY LEAGUE -- Which School?
Message Name: the best school?
Date Posted: 10/30/1999
In Reply To: First of all, you wasted a lot of your parents money going to Stanford. You could have got as good of an education at UCLA or Berkeley for 100,000 less. Second of all, Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch are CRAP compared to Goldman Sachs. Merrill Lynch is the Mcdonald's of Ibanking, and Morgan Stanley has too many scandals to mention. Mckinsey is a great firm, but it looks like you didn't have the talent to make it there, or get into Goldman Sachs. Notice how the UVA grad has not replied the last question. It's b/c he's probably a waiter at some family restaurant.
Message: Everyone is arguing here about which school is the best, who is superior to the other, etc., yet most people are using rather trivial criteria. Reputation isn't everything. Isn't the primary purpose of colleges and universities to train, prepare, and educate? I went to Berkeley undergrad and am a PhD student at Stanford. Having been at both schools for over four years each, I feel there isn't a difference in quality of students. Undergrads at Stanford are bright, but they're also whiny and pampered and afraid of hard work. The atmosphere here is too laid back. At Berkeley, the competitive climate forges excellence. It's a tough school, but those who make it are the best. Cal's got more top ten departments than any other school in the country. It's much more about academics than money or blue-blooded alumni back-patting. And the diversity is amazing, to say the least. Stanford's a great great school, but there's a lot of attitude here, a lot of huffing and puffing, and less substance. It's a fun place though, with fabulous weather. And you Ivy-Leaguers: lose the hubris. It reflects poorly on you and your schools.

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